Muslims can drink, just like Muhammad

It's quite well possible to be a good Muslim and still enjoy a drink once in a while.

It’s quite well possible to be a good Muslim and still enjoy a drink once in a while.

It is a general assumption that Muslims can not drink alcohol. Not that all believers of Islam go through life sober, but still it’s considered a sin to have a beer. Well, we did a lot of research and in this story we will explain to you why this assumption is wrong. Muslims are indeed allowed to drink. Wine is even glorified in their holy book the Quran and the prophet Muhammad himself drank too. We hope that soon everywhere in the Middle East the sounds of glasses bashing into eachother will replace those of gunshots. Here we go…

The first thing we need to do is to establish that drinking alcohol is not prohibited by the Quran as is claimed by many. There are three passages that hint in this direction. However not in a single occasion it is called haraam, or forbidden by God, like pork meat for example. Here are the three passages:
Quran 2:219 “They ask you concerning alcoholic drinks and games of chance. Say: in them are harm and goods for men, but their harms exeeds their good effects.
Quran 4:43 “Do not approach prayers while you are drunk.”
Quran 5:90 “O you who believe! Intoxications and gambling, (dedication of) stones and (divination by) arrows are an abomination of Satan’s handwork: so avoid it that you may prosper.”

Yes, alcohol is not being encouraged here. Although it is said that there are good sides to it, the emphasis is on the bad effects. Still it seems more like an advice not to drink as long as you don’t do your prayers drunk. We understand that talking to God with a double tongue is probably not the greatest idea, but as long as you keep that in mind there isn’t a good reason to chose for abstinence.

Now that we established that let’s check out another passage from the Quran that speaks of alcohol:
Quran 16.67 “And of the fruits of the date palms and the grapes, you obtain alcoholic drinks and goods. Verily in that is a sign for a people who use their understanding.”
In this verse without a doubt is said that God bestowed grapes and dates upon people, so they can make alcoholic drinks from them. That’s right, wine making is encouraged here.

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Since we know for sure now that alcohol was not prohibited, but even encouraged, it’s interesting to see how the prophet Muhammad handled his liquor. There are plenty of examples in the Hadiths (tales about Muhammad’s life that are used to understand the meaning of the Quran) that prove he indeed drank alcohol. Here is the most interesting one:
Muslim 3753 “We were with the prophet of Allah and he was thirsty. And a man said: ‘O prophet of Allah, do you want to drink wine?’ Prophet of Allah said: ‘Yes’. The man went to get the wine. The prophet of Allah said: ‘Make it intoxicated’. And he drank.”
Because the Arabian word that was used ‘nabeed’ can also mean alcohol free wine, the addition by the prophet that is must be intoxicated is a very valuable one. There are plenty more passages where Muhammad is drinking wine, both in the morning and in the evening. In many cases the Islamic opponents of alcohol can hide behind the double meaning of the word ‘nabeed’, but in the last habith the Arabic word ‘khamra’ is used, which means alcohol.

And actually Muhammad wasn’t the only one drinking, so did his companions. Anas Bin Malek serves alcohol in Muslim 23, 4884 and 4886. The Mujahedeen drank it in the Battle of Uhud and the prophet’s uncle Hamza even got drunk. When he did, Hamza got mad and Muhammad was scared. This was probably one of the reasons for him to disencourage people to drink too much. There’s also a tale that angels from Allah get drunk and kill a child. Another indication that bad stuff comes from drinking of course.

Still the conclusion must be that although moderation of alcohol is encouraged in Islam, it is absolutely not prohibited. The Quran states nowhere that it is haraam or sinful. The prophet Muhhamad himself that is a role-model for Muslims himself drank wine, just like his companions and Jesus, who in Islam is also considered a prophet. Now that’s one less reason to fight between religions and one more reason to celebrate. Nice to know with the Sugar Feast coming up this week too. So to finish in Arabic: besaha!

Micky Bumbar

Here’s another interesting article on the subject by Mesbahuddin Faruq from the Islamic site free-minds.org.

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The oldest Arab cookbook contains a recipe for wine and a hangover cure

The fight versus anti-alcohol laws in Malaysia

A Muslim employee Marks & Spencer refuses customers alcohol in England.

Men in Saudi Arabia get tortured for party with alcohol

Moroccan cops get drunk and throw bottles at passers

Taking it up with the super religious freaks (versus Christians who claim it’s a sin to drink)

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610 thoughts on “Muslims can drink, just like Muhammad

  1. I was born to a Moslem family

    We always had several bottles of brandy in our medicine cabinet. My dad was a pharmacist n he used to give us a cup of brandy when we used to catch cold n flu.

    It’s all so a historical fact that Hadith compilation and writing didn’t start until 175 years to some 250 years after prophet mohammed passed away, and therefore all hadiths bear no value but just fairy tales. What’s in Koran is what matters and the rest can go in vain. Even prophet said that he completed the message of god to people in his last sermon.

    Alcohol IS NOT heram in religion of peace!!!

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    • So true.Unfortunately till the masses understand that (same goes for the Christian gospels) people will continue their belief in the cleric who gains by fitting the religions to his benefits.
      Allah said I have made your religion easy for you don’t complicate it for yourself!

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    • I just posted a reply here to Micky Bumbar about his mis-understanding about the Ahadith in Sahih Muslim and his mis-understanding of Surah 16:67. I hope you take the time to read it as insha’Allah it will point you back to the path of our Prophet (PBUH)

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      • Bro, I will read it for sure. Just approved your comments of course, but it’s 5.58 am in Holland and I hope you’ll let me reply later. Cheers mate,
        Micky

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    • Sorry to stop you here. Hadiths can’t just go to vain. Are you even praying? If the answer is yes. Can you explain how did you learn to pray or even make wodoo? Those things weren’t written in the Quran. They were revealed in Hadiths by the prophet and his companions that actually lived with him. So if they lived with him and saw him and then went and revealed Hadiths, it’s impossible that those Hadiths are 175 years later. I don’t think it’s making any sense to you right?

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      • The Quran does tell us how to do wudu but Hadith complicates it with extra rituals.

        Quran 5:6 “O you who have believed, when you rise to [perform] prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of janabah, then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful.”

        There’s also verses on prayer times and how to pray but it’s gonna take me a while to find it. But the above verse just knocked out your hadith.

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    • So true! I think hadith translate to what is called Gospels. I believe Gospels was derived fr:om the word Gossip! Now w,e have something to think about don’t we?

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  2. I am a Muslim, and I don’t drink alcohol by choice. I also agree with you that alcohol is not called haraam as eating dead animals, a flesh of swine, or blood but discouraged in a great deal.

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    • To the people who had joined Islam, back when the prophet brought the religion to the people, some early Muslims were addicted to alcohol, so Allah (God) initially told them to ease off and then quit the consumption of alcohol. Prophet Mohammed never drank and he even mentioned that he would not consume from a lake of water even if it had a drop of alcohol.

      Muslims that think it is OK for the consumption of alcohol are absolutely mistaken.

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  3. I am a muslim, by faith and culture. I do not consider myself a practicing Muslim, because I rarely participate in Friday prayers or prayers at home. I do enjoy the occasional drink or bacon on my burger. However, I do feel a touch of guilt at times when I commit those sins. Indeed, we wall agree alcohol leads to evil, consumption of alcohol has caused millions of deaths around the world, liver disease, car accidents and so on. The consumption of pig meat (pork) is unhealthy, it is forbidden in all monotheistic religions to eat a mammal that eats other mammals, or to eat an animal by torturing it. To sum up, the Torah, Bible, and the Quran were made to protect us from harm. I still drink at times, but hope to stop at one point in life. God Knows best. Peace.

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    • Hi Youssef

      Thanks for your comments i have learnt some things that i did not know and i appreciate that.

      So much so im now having a drink to celebrate

      Cheers 🍻
      Steven

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    • Hi Again Yousef

      I forgot to mention what i learnt from your post.

      You think Christian’s are still living by the first testament.

      I think you will find that they moved on from that a long long time ago….

      Heard of BC & AD ?

      I really wonder if i am living in 2016 AD sometimes seriously…

      Cheers 🍻
      Steven

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    • my friend, nothing goes in will make you impure, but watch what comes out of your mouth. As long as you drink the bottle, you are in control, but when the bottle starts drinking you are in problem.

      I am 63, and and occasional drinker, but never crossed my limits…and my family also know that I will not cross limits.

      .If any God, that pronounce you as sinner, just because you take few drinks, is not God.

      ISIS killing innocent people in the name of Islam, at the same time say Alcohol is harm!!! What a calamity?

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      • even America destroys States, which causing deaths of innocents,Help less refugees, orphans, lost families, Broken States and civil wars . . in the name of Peace making and Democracy . . . .Which is Quite Different from their claimed Intentions . .
        Same thing to ISIS and Islam . . Doing things in the name of Islam , things which are quite different From What real Islam Is . . !!!
        That is Called #propaganda . . can cover one’s wrong actions OR can make one look Dirty . .

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    • enjoy you days blissfully, and do good things, if you can for your needy neighbors. God, if you believe, is kind and loving.

      God, has not created any religion- it is all man made to suit lazy and greedy people.

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      • ISIS killing innocent people in the name of Islam is wrong however Allah does not support the act which they are involved in and what they are doing. Allah will punish them in the afterlife as that is the main life for the mankind.Also you cannot use ISIS as an example to describe God or Islam because they are a minority against the whole of Islam. If all Muslims were part of ISIS then you won’t be alive.

        Alcohol is haram in Islam because when someone is drunk they are out of control and may do things they regret or be harmed?harmful to someone else. Alcohol creates health issues such as heart disease liver disease ect. Allah (swt) has gave Muslims a way to not be a sinner even after they commit a sin. A Muslim has to pray for forgiveness and Allah (swt) will forgive because he is the most merciful. Even if they have committed the same mistake more than once and asked for forgiveness Allah will still forgive.

        Finally religion is not man made to suit lazy and greedy people. That statement is rude and wrong. Gandhi was the principle figurehead of the Indian independence movement. Gandhi followed a philosophy of non-violence and peaceful protest.; he also sought to improve conditions for women and ‘low castes’ He was religious and not lazy nor greedy at all.

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    • What do you say about this.
      Narrated Aisha: The Prophet said, “All drinks that produce intoxication are Haram (forbidden to drink).
      Sahih Bukhari 1:4:243

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  4. This is a bullshit article with no credibility whatsoever. The Bloody shitstain of a writer is just defaming and misinterpreting a well established law in Islam .The incidents are stated without reference and are false Alcohol is forbidden in Islam and there are no two ways about that. So all the muslims supporting this claim are advised to consult a proper religious scholar or go to a credible Islamic forum to get their facts right!!!!

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    • At least “Bloody Shitstain” backs his theory up with sources and not with swearwords. You are clearly a very good Muslim if you use this kind of language.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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      • The verse you quoted (16:67) is nasikh (the abrogated). Although it is mentioned in the Quran but its teachings can’t be followed.

        And may Allay guide you to the right path.

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    • This article is supported by verses from the Quran directly. Since you claim it is bullshit, why don’t you support your claim directly from verses of the Quran that alcohol is forbidden and harm. Cause as of now you just sound like one of the ill educated Muslims that like to make the religion difficult which is haram.

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      • Verses of Qur’an have been interpreted by sunnah . . if you find it hard to understand . .
        find the story of how Swahabbas stopped using Alcohol . . . and what was the main reason . . Allah told us and showed us in our life the reasons for everything that has been declared Haram
        Quran has never mentioned alcohol as haram . . . it is not used Just in drinks . . . . . but also in other industrial products Like which are used in Daily life . . and makes Humans life better
        Also Alcohol is not Najis stuff . . . . thats why we use those products freely . .

        But alcoholic Drinks are Haram Because They have effect on Human’s Health and Mental well being . .Satan can easily Convince a drunk person . .
        and drunkers can easily fall into their desires and temporary feelings . . because their Councious is never no to anything . .
        Then they will do things which Allah has Prohibited … like Zinaa (a non marriage sex) and Rapping

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    • Killing of innocent people in the name of any religion is terror and a sin. Quaran certainly advocate killing of non-Muslims, which in their faith is Jihath….which in 21st century no one support.

      Besides, Quaran has no validity, since it came 638 years after Christianity, which follows earlier Scripture/Prophecies…that is word of God….I believe, God cannot change His word….if He did in Quaran, then God is a lair.

      Quaran does not supersedes, Holy Bible. Quaran does not offer anything new or better to mankind, that were already offered in Holy Bible.

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    • wars in the past, especially in OT times had its justifications, and even wars happening now too, but killing in the name of religion is terror, and sin. Quaran does advocates killing in the name of Islam, which cannot be justified.

      If you say, consuming Alcohol is haram/sin, killing innocent people is not…..strange.

      Quaran does not offer any thing new or better for mankind…..Muslims have to prove Quaran on the basis of earlier word of God, failing which Quaran has no validity.

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  5. this website makes my faith stronger……many websites could change muslim’s mind and they getting fooled out…just like dis 1, using the quran and hadith and used as “weapon” against us “And never will be pleased with you the Jews and [not] the Christians until you follow their religion. Say, “Indeed, (the) Guidance (of) Allah, it (is) the Guidance.” And if you follow their desires after what has come to you of the knowledge, not for you from Allah any protector and not any helper. ” 2:120 , its happened

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  6. this website makes my faith stronger……many websites could change muslim’s mind and they getting fooled out…just like dis 1, using the quran and hadith and used as “weapon” against us “And never will be pleased with you the Jews and [not] the Christians until you follow their religion. Say, “Indeed, (the) Guidance (of) Allah, it (is) the Guidance.” And if you follow their desires after what has come to you of the knowledge, not for you from Allah any protector and not any helper. ” 2:120 , its happened

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    • So you feel you had to post the same message twice under different names? You are pathetic. First of all, we are not Jewish and 2nd we are not trying to convert anyone.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  7. “Indeed, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to avert [people] from the way of Allah . So they will spend it; then it will be for them a regret; then they will be overcome. And those who have disbelieved – unto Hell they will be gathered. [This is] so that Allah may distinguish the wicked from the good and place the wicked some of them upon others and heap them all together and put them into Hell. It is those who are the losers.” 8: 36-37

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    • Im still looking for your point but i cant find it anywhere with regards to the topic of this conversation..

      So please stop quoting verses from wherever you are getting them that are irrelevant..

      It would be appreciated

      Cheers
      Steven 🍻

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      • hahaha, nice collaboration, changing the topic from verses to my blog, and this verses of quran is really really true about you guys “And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, you recognize in the faces of those who disbelieve disapproval. They are almost on the verge of assaulting those who recite to them Our verses. Say, “Then shall I inform you of [what is] worse than that? [It is] the Fire which Allah has promised those who disbelieve, and wretched is the destination.” 22:72 LOL

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      • Dude I don’t know what you are trying to do here? I never said in my life to any Muslim that he should be a Christian. But since you brought it up, friends and colleagues from Bosnia, Somalia, Turkey,Morocco and Iran all suggested I should convert the other way. Some subtile, but in some cases it was just annoying like Jehovah witnesses can drive you nuts. I repeat one more time so hopefully your peanut brain can get it too: “If you are Muslim, please stay Muslim. Or not, do whatever you want. It’s your life and not mine.We’ll see eachother at the finish line. Cheers.

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      • yeah Mr. Micky, i knew it…BUT dis page could make other muslims could be “affected” and do somethin Allah’s prohibit it…like muslim can drink…so some of them could drink it…..

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    • Wow i notice your English and punctuation has improved. Did you really write the above? I think not.

      But you still keep ignoring my questions.

      Where are your comments relevant to this conversation?

      I also still am waiting for your guess as to my religon or are you still trying to get your head around the fact that there are more than 3?

      Why not discuss this your cleric? Ask him for advice about trolling a valid discussion… and request some concrete evidence to show us all that we are wrong, instead of continuing quoting texts that have absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.

      In the meantime i will have a drink and i am more than sure that i will be very drunk before you can do this…

      Hmmm i think i will start with a guiness…

      Looking forward to your reply, not….

      Cheers 🍻

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      • hahaha, im not going to answer what is your religion….yeah, my english is not very good cuzz im not american, or a guy using english as a mother tongue
        yeah some of my comment r not relevant wit dis discussion….im just tellin u,
        dis discussion about muslim can drink jus’ like muhammad is really wrong
        he even not learn anything about islam, just read the quran and claim that muslim can drink intoxicant, hahaha… im just tellin the truth, “And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, you recognize in the faces of those who disbelieve disapproval” just like u

        and there is NO word “Muslims are indeed allowed to drink” or “Wine is even glorified in their holy book the Quran and the prophet Muhammad himself drank too.” said on quran,

        1. Prohibition of alcohol in the Qur’an
        The Glorious Qur’an prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verse:
        “O ye who believe! Intoxicants and Gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an Abomination – of Satan’s handiwork; eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.” [Al-Qur’an 5:90]

        or
        2. Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible
        The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verses:
        a. “Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.” [Proverbs 20:1]
        b. “And be not drunk with wine which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit,” [Ephesians 5:18]

        3. Alcohol is prohibited in the Hadith
        The Prophet of Islam Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
        a. In Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30 Hadith No. 3371.
        “Alcohol is the mother of all evils and it is the most shameful of evils.”
        b. In Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30 Hadith No. 3392
        “Anything which intoxicates in a large quantity, is prohibited even in a small quantity.”
        Thus there is no excuse to drink small or large quantity
        c. Not only those who drink alcohol are cursed but also those who deal with them directly or indirectly are cursed by Allah.
        According to Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30 Hadith No. 3380. It was reported by Anas (may Allah be pleased with him), that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:
        “God’s curse falls on ten groups of people who deal with alcohol. The one who distills it, the one for whom it has been distilled, the one who drinks it, the one who transports it, the one to who it has been brought, the one whom serves it, the one who sells it, the one who utilizes money from it, the one who buys it and the one who buys it for someone else.” hahaha get it?
        even the hadith mentioned on dis discussion has no strong evidences

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      • So now you want to guess my race because you gave up on my religon?

        Well im sorry to dissapoint you but im not American…want to try again? ill give you a hint there are more than 3 lol

        You seem to be starting to understand things a little bit better by getting a grasp of the fact that there is a difference between touching alcohol and being intoxicated by it..

        To me that is what it really says in the koran and yes i have read it

        Mind you my comments are based on the nanosecond that i spent reading your response because you again fill it with crap..

        If English is not your first language may i suggest you speak your own tongue so nobody will understand it…

        Would probably make more sense to us all as well..

        In the meantime ive finished playing with you frankly your pathetic.

        Next. …

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      • and i request some concrete evidences TO SHOW that Muslims are indeed allowed to drink ON quran…haha even u dont know bible say about intoxicant?

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      • What does the Quran say about brain surgery? You could really use it, but please never perform it!

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      • hahah u gettin of the subject
        lol Mr. Mick, i think u want me to stop commenting…
        thanks for debatin wit me
        steven, mickey debatin wit 17 years old guy called danupegleg

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      • For someone who has no time you post a lot of garbage and guess at mine and others race and religon thats the only reason i responded to your verbal diarrhea

        And you keep getting it wrong thats the only reason i asked those questions

        Typically you assume im an American jew or christian..

        So just cut the crap stop dodging around the issue of the topic of this conversation and show me exactly where by the verse it directly says in your holy book that you cannot take ANY alcohol whether it be by mouth or means of sterilization or whatever..

        Just give me the verse number dont quote it thanks i have the book myself … and can read..

        So your next post will be verse blah blah chapter blah blah if you are truly serious

        And i will look that up and then will gladly confirm or deny what you are crapping on about…

        So im looking forward to only reading this from you…

        One more time for the dummies. .. the verse and chapter

        Thats all i ask inshallah

        Now on a more serious note muscat or port?

        Hmmmm

        Cheers 🍻

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      • I think i could die from alcoholic poisoning before you could give me a direct answer..

        I have studied your religon for longer than you have been alive

        I have asked you fair reasonable and direct questions and you have not given me one single answer to any of the questions asked

        As far as i can see all you have done is make a fool of yourself it is also obvious to me and typical of your type that as soon as you found yourself in water deeper than you can swim in you called in for back ups. Proof of this is shown by your posts they are obviously not all written by you.

        You can deny this all you like. I know that for you it is only a lie if you are caught out. Well guess what, you have been caught out sinner.
        As soon as you were caught out you had to call in back ups ie there is no way you have penned all of your responses yourself. aside from your constant quotes of some draconic verses nothing to do with this topic

        You post

        I don’t want to guess your religon yet you guessed at somebody elses ie mickey

        I dont want to guess your race yet you guessed at somebody elses ie mickey

        When i ask you to put up or shut up you dont want to play anymore.

        Show me your proof to the topic of this discussion to back up your claims that alcohol is forbidden in the koran… you can keep dodging ducking and running from this question but you cannot answer and you have been given every chance and opportunity…

        I sincerely question if you understand the topic of this conversation in anyway way shape or form…

        I also question why a person of your faith would even consider looking at a website like lord of the drinks so you must be questioning this yourself.. that forbidden because you have been caught out so you are therefore a hypocrite and a sinner according to your law..

        Your obviously a 17 year old kid who is interested in alcoholic beverages which is a totally normal, it is part of growing up.

        I just hope that you do one day inshallah

        I think that says it all

        So take my advice go back to your own types blog of guns and drugs and 72 virgins or whatever else rocks your boat then back when you grow up

        That way we will never hear from you again

        Adios amigo

        Time for a refreshing ale

        Muscat makes me thirsty

        Cheers 🍻

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  8. -Micky Bumbar (Lords of the Drinks)-

    I would like to clarify your complete mis-understanding of both the Hadith about the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) drinking alcohol in Sahih Muslim 3753 and provide the classic Tafsir of Surah 16:67 as related by Ibn-Kathir and others.

    As a Muslim I will try my best to assume you sincerely do not know this information and do not have the intention in your heart to lead Muslim’s astray. God willing you have heart enough to see your error’s when pointed out to you in a respectful way and not continue mis-guiding others.

    The word ‘nabeed’ (nabeeth is the more correct pronunciation) does not mean alcohol as in a liquid that has the ability to get you drunk/intoxicated. It refers to a fermented non-alcoholic drink made from dates or grapes or raisins that does not reach the alcoholic stage, specifically no longer than 3 days, after which the drink must not be consumed and thrown out. This explanation is also in Sahih Muslim which describes that the Prophet’s wife Aisha used to make it for him and after 3 days the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would no longer drink it.

    These drinks were very common traditional healthy non-alcoholic beverages from many cultures the same as Kombucha, Kefir, Kvass, etc… of today are. If you are familiar with the Weston A. Price foundation or Sally Fallon’s, Nourishing Traditions, cookbook, you can look up all the recipes she collected from the world about these 2-3 day lacto-fermented beverages she advises for health purposes. Even today these probiotic filled drinks are recommended for kids and sick people to recover and maintain their health. It is exactly this type of non-alcoholic probiotic drink that is referred to when the word ‘nabeeth’ is used. In fact look up the origin of Kefir and you will find all legends say it was given to a tribe in the Caucus region by the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). And you can verify this in the same source you interpreted permission to drink intoxicants from, Sahih Muslim.

    The problem arises from modern Arab Muslim’s having lost touch with these 3 day fermented probiotic drinks that used to be common in the past, and substituting the modern form or alcoholic drinks with nabeeth. It is true that modern Arabs no longer have a distinction between khamr and nabeeth, but their was most certainly a difference in the Prophets (PBUH) time.

    As to your understanding of Sura 16:67 the Tafsir of Ibn-Kathir and others and my initial understanding of it before I looked it up is, that God made all things, containing both pure and impure and it is for those of wisdom/common sense to see the difference between the 2 and choose the correct one and in doing so will see the signs of God. Supporting this premise is the preceding aya 66 which is giving the exact same pattern of a sheep/goat/etc of which their is blood and excrement (filth) and also among it milk, which is pure and healthy. We are not allowed to consume the blood of animals or the excrement just as we are not allowed to consume the ‘Sakar'(Alcohol/Intoxicant)of fruits. Both aya 66 and 67 are illuminating how God gave us pure healthy things to aid us along with the harmful impure ones, so one with wisdom/common sense will see these as signs of God. It in no way is implying us to drink intoxicants no more than in aya 66 it is implying one to eat excrement or blood from sheep. The word ‘Rezqan Hasanan’ in aya 67, or ‘goods’ in English, one derives from date palms and grapes is ‘nabeeth’ according to Al-Tabari, the same drink referred to in Sahih Muslim.

    Aya 66: Tafsir of Ibn-Kathir (From the KSA(Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
    http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/tafheem-katheer/sura16-aya66.html#katheer

    Aya 67: Tafsir of Ibn-Kathir (From the KSA(Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
    http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/tafheem-katheer/sura16-aya67.html#katheer

    So I hope you see that all the Ahadith in Sahih Muslim are referring to a 3 day fermented probiotic non-alcoholic beverage called ‘nabeeth’ that is sadly not common to modern Arabs any longer, as it is actually Sunnah for us Muslim’s to drink the non-alcoholic probiotic healthy nabeeth. And Surah 16:67 is positing a distinction for those with wisdom/knowledge to see the signs of God in, that they may derive benefit, specifically milk and nabeeth in this case, and stay clear of the harmful things in life, specifically, blood/excrement and alcohol in this case.

    If I did not explain things in a clear way please let me know and I’ll try to clarify further. God willing we all find a way to understand and co-exist with one another even if we must maintain a distance from each other in order to do so.

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    • Dear Omar, thanks a lot for your comment. Actually it was very clear and made a lot of sense. I am familiar with drinks like kvass… Impossible to get drunkof, but I am quite curious if the alcohol content is enough for health benefits. If so, you might just solved the puzzle.
      All the best,
      Micky

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  10. So basically you are saying that consumption of alcohol is allowed in islam,my brother you have not researched properly.any kind of intoxicant is haram in islam. You cant just make out your own meaning of the verses above.read ita proper meaning.and there is no hatith that says Muhammad peace be upon him deinks too.Infact in the hadith he has clearly said that consumption of any intoxicant is strictly prohibited in islam.
    Hope you have understood and plz dont post such thing if you dont know

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    • Yes I am saying that if you just read all books the only logical conclusion must be that moderate drinking is allowed. Luckily I backed my story up with sources. Where are yours?
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  11. Christian here, I hope I can bring some insight into the matter.
    Religions evolve over time, even Islam adapts to present circumstances. Which is a good thing – you wouldn’t people to go around like it’s 632 AD…
    So if the majority of Muslims and religious authorities today reject the consumption of alcohol, be it on moral or health grounds (it doesn’t really matter), that makes it unlawful by itself, even if their Prophet had never mentioned anything about it.

    Believing that the Quran is the only source of doctrine for a Muslim is like believing that the Bible is the only source of doctrine for a Christian. And the most fundamentalist Christians I’ve met are exactly like this. The fact remains that the Apostles and Prophet Muhammad did not see so far into the future as to provide all answers to all matters. Only God Himself knows all.

    Micky, the truth is that there is no solid evidence to support the claim that alcohol is beneficial to health. One can use statistics to prove anything.
    However, it is also true that, while alcohol itself is not beneficial, some substances contained in certain beverages, like the tannin in red wine, are indeed healthy – but they can be obtained through other means.

    What I never quite got about Islam is why it’s so prohibitive regarding worldly things like food and drink, but permissive of much more serious things such as child marriage or women’s rights in general. And what’s wrong with pork? (rhetorical question: I know Muslims will answer «because it’s impure»)

    «For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude;
    For it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer.»

    1Tim. 4:4-5

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    • Well sure a little evolution of religion is okay, but why change the things that are not harmful? Why is booze a big no-no in countries like Saudi Arabia, but most people are still smoking? It can’t be justified by old texts or with common sense based on modern day science.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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      • I don’t think I’ll ever get the Muslims who try to tell you that alcohol is forbidden and horrible as they light up a smoke, especially if it’s marijuana. The trouble with the evolving community is that the rules can change a lot on things.
        Believe it or not, caffeine at one time was the big haram item, but now try to imagine the Maghreb and Levant without it. The Arabs of Mohammed’s time practiced adoption (including him), but in some Muslim societies, it is forbidden. This is why I think fatwas are less important than personal understanding of scripture; the scripture remains constant, but opinions come and go.

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    • I am non-Muslim, but have good friendship with Muslims….we do not discuss religion and its issues.

      One question I want to ask, why so much of talks about Alcohol in Islam, when Allah himself offering WINE and WOMEN in heaven?

      I hope I am not offending anyone!

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  12. all these comments i’ve been reading even some of my muslim companions are very ignorant.

    Kindly, and in most simple words I’ll try my best to explain. If you’re interested you are more than welcome to read on, if not i’m still putting it here so others that may want to read it can make some sense of it especially my brothers and sisters in islam.

    – The muslims that have gone all defensive and fretful: They, (I’m guessing) started becoming defensive at this article most probably due to the fact that you used the phrase “We hope that soon everywhere in the Middle East the sounds of glasses bashing into eachother will replace those of gunshots.” I’m not challenging what you know about the differences between the radicals and the muslims because i do not know you but i just want to say that there is a clear difference.
    In many hadith and in the Quran it says that any human that intentionally hurts or kills any living being isn’t worthy of the title of a Muslim. You can check for verification too. I’m not bothered citing my sources at the moment (in the middle of an assignment) so if you’d like sources you can always ask and i’ll give them to you soon. But please don’t compare a Muslim to the disgusting people, i’m ashamed to even call them people who are hurting and finishing innocent lives.

    – Alcohol is discouraged and all Muslims should treat it as prohibition because if we do take it, it means we are going against what our Holy Book is teaching us and THAT is prohibited. We all have a free will. The Quran tells us that alcohol is intoxicating and can lead us away from God and make us forget our prayers and cause us harm. We could also fall into addiction. Being intoxicated can also lead to other sins that wouldn’t have occurred if we just stayed away from alcohol in the first place. In the Quran it also says :”O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, sacrificing to stones, and divination by arrows are an abomination of Satan’s handiwork. Eschew such abomination, that you may prosper” (Qur’an 5:90). Note : ‘abomination of Satan’s handiwork’
    Giving into the whispers of Satan is a sin even though it may not be recorded, giving in to drinking even if it is a little would mean we are another step closer to what Satan is planning. Even moderate drinking could make us closer to haram. So overall, drinking intoxicating alcohol is a prohibition due to the after effects or due to the pre-intentions we have.

    – the hadith about the Prophet Muhammad you have cited state he used to drink but they weren’t alcoholic drinks. They were drinks that were from grapes or dates before they reached the alcoholic state.

    – Many verses in the Quran glorify wine and alcohol and those verses describe the alcohol in Heaven, which is non-intoxicating and free for Muslims to enjoy. Also, according to our beliefs its physically impossible to do or cause any harm in Heaven so drinking alcohol wouldn’t make us do things we regret.

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    • Thanks a lot for the huge comment… About the gunshots, it wasn’t meant in a bad way. But unfortunately there is so much unrest in many Arabic countries. I sincerely hope for peace everywhere in the Middle East soon.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  13. Hey there,

    I just came across your article and thought: It is nice to build your own point of view on analysis and logic. BUT with haram and halal, especially, you need to provide all the data concerned with the subject at hand because you are dealing with RELIGION.

    All the points you had mentioned and the Qur’anic verses you referred to have simple straightforward answers to it and it is all easily accessed at any time for researchers and truth seekers.

    Yes, intoxicants are forbidden in Islam in any form and you and the readers and the commenters may consult any of the Islamic sources and tafsirs of the Qur’an to reveal the misunderstanding of the verses introduced in the article.
    When parts of the information needed are missing or being ignored, be it intentionally or unintentionally, the final image is really distorted. Alike what is happening to understanding the truth of Islam, the religion of peace.

    Finally, I ask all to just be a sincere, non-bias seekers for the truth (regardless of your religious background) and you will surely be guided to it.

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  14. Well ethically we need to correct our eating rabbits, excess of everything is bad , so as consuming alcohol in excess can damage us physically and mentally. But if you are considering it HARAM according to Quran you are deluded, as the book prohibited us from many things and alcohol is one of them, but its not haram and the word haram is not mentioned with alcohol in quran.
    Another dilemma in islam is these MOVIES and their FATWAS, they are all lairs and they take advantage of Quran for their own good and what THEY don’t like they announce it as HARAM.

    For example ask any molvie for world for HALALA , he will jump with excitement and give you tons of material from quran and hadees just to enjoy that free sexual pleasure with your wife. So beware these people and many hadeez including many book as well are fake and fraud. They will misguide you take advantage of you and still call you a SINNER and mess up your mind. Thats main reason and happening with 99% of Muslims these days for the backward situation and no success in science and technology.

    IN short no one is a good Muslim these days and no one can follow real islam due to the biggest haram i.e SOOD / Interest / RIbah. These molvies own a complete bank (bigger shirk and haram) called mezaan bank Pakistan (owned by molvi taqi usmani) inventor of thousand of fake fatwas just to earn money and free sex.

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  15. Hey, Micky, I’ve been on a break from drinking and I’ve just cleared 9 weeks. Status: Sobriety is nice, drinking is nice, but I miss out on the benefits of both by just picking one. Would really like to take up drinking a bit again, partially because I really miss good liquor, and partially because I’m finding that I’m displacing all my former drinking time into online nonsense; a man can only exercise and work so many hours a day! Besides, unlike playing too much video games or spending too much time on the internet, the body has a pretty vicious way to tell you to rein in your boozing.

    I was talking to my imam following a lecture on the verses about alcohol. I got him to admit that in relation to another verse, that nothing is fully haram unless explicitly spelled out as such in scripture, which he nodded and said that even alcohol, technically. The verse which states that there is good and bad in drink rings true with science; 2 drinks = a nice night; 10 shots = a miserable time. A bottle/pack a week is even good for health, but the same amount every day is ruinous. It is as God said, to only spend on them of what we can afford and to be wary. If drinking a sin, it would have been enumerated as one. If it is, then that’s between me and God; I observe my prayers, give charity, fast duly, follow the dietary laws, and so on, so I am observant in the ways spelled out by scripture. So be it.

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  16. Assalamualaikkum
    I am shocked to read this article that says drinking Alcohol is not haram.
    It is said in Quran in 4:43 that do not go near prayer when you are intoxicated , well intoxication means that the person is not able to control himself physically and mentally.
    Authentic hadeeth:
    The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: “Allah has cursed Khamr (intoxicants – ALCOHOL, wine etc.), the one who drinks it, the one who pours it for others, the one who sells it, the one who buys it, the one who makes it, the one who it is made for, the one who carries it, the one who it is carried to and the one who consumes the money from its sale.”

    [Sunan Abu Dawud – Classed as Sahih by Shaykh al-Albaani]

    http://hadithaday.org/those-who-deserve-the-curse/allah-has-cursed-alcohol/#sthash.TvC6On1x.dpuf

    Alcohol is called as the mother of all evil.
    Following are more informations regarding this issue

    The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: “Allah has cursed Khamr (intoxicants – alcohol, wine etc.), the one who drinks it, the one who pours it for others, the one who sells it, the one who buys it, the one who makes it, the one who it is made for, the one who carries it, the one who it is carried to and the one who consumes the money from its sale.”

    [Sunan Abu Dawud – Classed as Sahih by Shaykh al-Albaani]

    Commentary:

    Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab, and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful” [Al-Maa’idah 5:90]

    The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: “Every intoxicant is Khamr, and every intoxicant is Haram (prohibited).” [Sahih Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

    Alcohol leads to many harmful things, and deserves to be called “the mother of all evils” – as it was described by the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam), who said: “Alcohol is the mother of all evils.” [Classed as Hasan by Shaykh al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 1854]

    The curses surrounding Khamr (intoxicants – alcohol, wine etc.) mentioned in the above Hadith which we are discussing are 10 and the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) listed them in the following order:

    He mentioned alcohol itself as a cursed creation of man as He (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said, “Allah has cursed alcohol”.
    Allah cursed the drinker of Alcohol. This also includes drugs in all its forms and varieties because the purpose is one: intoxication and causing failure to the functions of the brain. Whoever takes drugs, sells its pills and grass and other varieties is also cursed. Likewise the one who orders it, the one it is taken to, the trafficker, the distributor and the one who plans its distribution and the one who covers up for it and the rest of the drug ring are all cursed.
    Allah cursed the one who pours alcohol for others to drink whether it is guests or customers. This includes employees in reception centers, cafés, restaurants, bars, pubs and clubs.
    Allah cursed the seller. This is the person who owns the alcohol in this store, restaurant or club and sells it to others through the process of his business.
    The one who purchases alcohol is cursed. This is the person who buys alcohol for one reason or another, not necessarily for consumption: he may be restocking the shelves, buying it as a present or ‘doing his job’; all these people are cursed nonetheless.
    Allah has cursed the manufacturer. This includes every employee in the brewery or winery that produces alcohol in all its varieties whether from grapes, dates, whey or barley, whether it was light, lager, spirits or concentrated all of them are cursed.
    The ones who gets the alcohol made for him is also cursed, it may be a pre-order for an event, store, warehouse or household. Everyone involved in this arrangement is also cursed.
    Allah has also cursed the one who carries and transports alcohol. This includes international, national and local transportation from one country to another, one state to the other or from the brewery to the distributor. Included in this list are freight trucks, couriers and taxis that transport people or their alcohol or both.
    The one it is transported to. This is the person who is waiting for its arrival, he is also cursed.
    The one who consumes the money from its sale. This is the owner of the brewery or the bottle shop who sells it and profits from its sale. This can not only include individuals but entire companies and corporations. All their assets, employees and activities are cursed by Allah.
    Dealing with Alcohol in all of its forms is one of the worst sins that a Muslim can commit, especially after they have heard of its prohibition and the curse it calls upon the drinker. If you consume alcohol and still pray, know that your prayer is not accepted for 40 days as the Messenger (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) informed us in a authentic Hadith related in the Sunan of Ibn Maajah on the authority of Abdullah Ibn Umar (radi Allahu anhu):

    “Whoever drinks alcohol and gets drunk Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 mornings. If he dies he will enter the hellfire and if he repents Allah will accept his repentance. If he returns to the sin, drinks and becomes drunk again, Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he dies he will enter the hellfire but if he repents Allah will accept his repentance. If he returns to the sin, drinks and becomes drunk again, Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he dies he will enter the hellfire but if he repents Allah will accept his repentance. If he returns to the sin again, (the 4th time) it is a promise of Allah that he will feed him from ‘Rad-ghat-til Khabaal’ on the Day of Judgment. They asked the Messenger of Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam), what is ‘Radghattil Khabaal’? He (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said, “(it is) the extracted juice of the people of the hellfire.”

    “Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days” means that he will not be rewarded for them (his prayer), but he is still obliged to pray; in fact he is obliged to do all the prayers. If he forsakes prayer during this time, he will be committing one of the worst of major sins, one which some of the scholars said amounts to kufr, Allaah forbid.

    According to another hadith found in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim, the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said, “Whoever does not repent from drinking (Khamr – intoxicants) in this world will be deprived from it in the hereafter.”

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  17. In many Norse societies from a similar age, drinking a mans piss in order to get high from hallucinogenic mushrooms, passed from person to person, in a varying degrees of potency, was considered normal. “Shall extract the juice” “Radghattil Khabaal” lol. So basically you drink and share in the intoxication of other misbelievers? Anyway. Thankfully I don’t give a righteous screw what I drink.

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  18. Hello friends,

    When ISIS, and other Islamists making terror in the name of ISLAM all over the world, you all are wasting time in discussing Alcohol?

    Why don’t you all do something to educate these misguided people to return to normal life, and leave the violent ways?

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  19. I really like what this man has written and this has really inspired me to understand that people who do not understand the Quran and hadith write articles as such. I would like to thank God and you, Micky Bumbar, for I was sitting on the fence to go to a party where alcohol will be served, but your article and ignorance about devine knowledge really helped me in resolving not to go. Thank you so much. Wow, Allah is great. Alhamdullihah

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  20. The prohibition against alcohol came down 10 years after Muhammad (saw) first received revelation. We are no longer allowed to drink alcohol but right at the beginning of the advent of Islam Muslims were not yet prohibited from drinking.

    You have to put each section of the Qur’an in context.

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  23. Muhammah (SAW) NEVER DRANK IDOIT
    this is why i dont come to these webs its wast i have to do this for my project so if u dont mined im leaving

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  25. Seriously asking a drunken guy about a religion? Lmao.
    Bottom line: Alcohol is haram and it is written all over the Quran and hadith.
    The writer didn’t realize that when Islam came, drinking was common but hated among the elite of the community back then. It counts as shameful act If you got drunk. That’s was pre Islam era.
    Then Islam came and GRADUALLY prohibited drinking once and for all. This why early verses discouraging drinking while last verses were prohibiting drinking. It is the logical way to help someone quitting a bad habit.

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  26. Now with respect to your question, yes the Qur’an does prohibit alcohol, however the verses you presented would indicate otherwise hence it may seem like there’s a contradiction?

    In reality there’s no Contradiction, it’s important to first note that Alcohol and its consumption was an integral part of the Arab society at the time, when you embark on your reading of the Prophet Biography and Sira you will come to understand this.

    Because of this Allah in his divine wisdom had them quit gradually. This was Allah’s plan the whole time. But if Allah were to completely prohibit drinking all at once, it would have been very difficult for them to abide by that law immediately. This simply shows Allah’s mercy and consideration for his creation.

    Hence In Islam Alcohol prohibition came in 3 gradual phases, Imam Ahmad(Great Scholar of Islam) recorded that Abu Hurayrah(Companion of the Prophet) said,

    “There were three stages to prohibiting Khamr (intoxicants). When the Messenger of Allah migrated to Al-Madinah, the people were consuming alcohol and gambling, so they asked the Messenger of Allah about these things, Allah revealed,

    (They ask you about alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: “In them is a great sin, and (some) benefit for men.”)﴿2:219﴾, until the end of the Ayah.

    The people said, `They (intoxicants and gambling) were not prohibited for us. Allah only said,

    (In them is a great sin, and (some) benefit for men.)’

    So they went on drinking Khamr until one day, one of the emigrants lead his companions in the Maghrib prayer and mixed up the Ayat in his recitation. Thereafter, Allah sent down a tougher statement,

    (O you who believe! Approach not the Salah (the prayer) when you are in a drunken state until you know (the meaning of) what you utter.)﴿4:43﴾

    Then, the people would drink before the time of the prayer so that they would attend the prayer while sober. A firmer Ayah was later revealed,

    O ye who believe ! wine and the game of chance and idols and divining arrows are only the abomination of Satan’s handiwork. So shun each one of them that you may prosper. Satan only wants to cause between you animosity and hatred through intoxicants and gambling and to avert you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. So will you not desist?
    . Surah 5:90-91

    So they said, `We abstained, O Lord!’,

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  27. This article is totally nonsense. The author just wants to misguide people out there. I’m pretty sure majority Muslims know why Alcohol is prohibited in Islam and Alhamdulillah they restrict from it for the sake of Allah. And for those people who do not know can please check for authentic sources to get your answers. I know God has given brilliant brains to all the brothers and sisters out there.

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    • Yep, brains to think for themselves I hope. It’s when we blindly follow others things can get very nasty. So check my sources and see if I’m wrong, make up your own opinion, I dare you!
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  28. Oh these comments, always entertaining…

    You do know that the Quran tells us that only things it explicitly calls haram are haram, no? Liquor is not listed as one of those things. Allah says exactly what he intends to and what he means, and the most he says is a warning against drunkenness. The Quran also tells us that we should accept no religious authority other than the Quran. So according to Allah, alcohol is allowed — not the best thing, but certainly not forbidden.

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  29. Hey dont try to portray bad as good in islam .,,, in islam drinkin is prohibited or try to read thoroughly even in bible its prohibited, and next time dont try to impose any thing that u like to do to any prophet or religion, what else proof u need even doctors and even u knew ur self its drinkin and smookin bad for health and cause death by cancer. U have no knowlege u just read or assume what u think is likeable to u thats truth.

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    • You can get cancer from sunshine mate. Overdoing most things is harmful, moderate drinking actually has health benefits that have been scientifically proven.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  30. This is a fake website, just like the many others go look in the Quran yourself before you go drinking drinks and loosing control of yourselves . It is said clearly in the Quran those of you take intoxicants will not even smell the air of heaven READ UP GUYS NOT FOLLOW BLINDLY !! You will b questioned in the end dumbos

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  31. I’m a muslim and I have lived in an area where Salafi Idealism is quite strong. Fortunately, my family always allowed me to walk my own path and interpret the quran and hadith in my own terms. I pray 5 times a day, give zakah etc. My interpretations could be wrong could be wrong and I haven’t finished reading it. Regarding Alcohol consumption, It is not encouraged but, if one were to drink it should not lead to one losing control over his senses and forgetting the presence of god.

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  32. In surrah maaa- Idah in Quran Almighty the Allah clearly says —O you who believe! Intoxicants(all kinds of alcoholic drinks),gambling,Al-Ansab, and Al-Azlam(arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of shaitan’s(Satan) handiwork.So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.—ayah 90.So there is clear instruction in Quran declaring alcoholic drinks forbidden.Then there are number of sayings of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) where it is clearly told that alcoholic drinks are forbidden. So one need not have any doubt in this regard,alcoholic drinks are not allowed in islam.Muhammed(peace be upon him) never had alcoholic drinks.One can verify it with his biographies.

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    • Muhammed, despite proving that Quaran, Islam, and Mohammed all fictitious and fake by giving proof within Quaran/Hadidths and other Islamic writings, Muslims keep defending by beating around the bush.

      it is absolutely clear that Islam was a political movement established by Mohammed to suit his convenience, and violent deeds, especially against women. He was a criminal, and if was alike now, he would have been sentenced 1000s of years in jail for the crimes he did. I write this, not to offend you guys, as I can give proof to support my statement.

      On of the main Proofs:

      1. Mohammed spoke Satanic Verses, which disqualify him to be a God sent Prophet.
      2. Mohammed did not have his circumcision according to LAW?, which again disqualify him as God sent Prophet.
      3. Since God will not change His once given Word, Earlier Scripture, Prophecies, Gospel (Holy Bible) or God is not a a human to reconfirm His once given word, Mohammed’s claim of Quaran being a Heavenly Gift is totally FAKE.
      4. Mohammed had done serious Crimes against humanity, which also disqualify him as God sent Prophet.
      5. Mohammed also kissed the Black stone (idolatry), that again disqualify him being God sent Prophet.

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  33. some mother fucker is running the bull shit who is the alcohol maniac why dont you drink urine and filth u can also chose that way of life as the hindu of india drinks cow urine u idiot pagan can do it

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    • you may check health benefits of Cow urine, human urine etc. in the web. and respond. If people eating poisonous reptiles (snakes, lizards, dogs, worms etc.) what have you got to say?

      Nothing proves Quaran, Islam, and Mohammed.

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      • Give me a break. You are talking about a religion which exploits poor people in the name of caste. They don’t even sit together to eat food on the same table and you are going to teach the world equality?

        A religion where woman is supposed to stay hungry for 24 hours for drunkard and abusive husband while the later goes around drinking or having affairs? Lol!

        A religion which doesn’t speak about its history before Ram. Cleverly erasing all historic texts that existed before him.

        Only a Brahman can do rituals and it is purely their monopoly and source of making money.

        So just shut up and get lost.

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  34. It would be great if you could first take a crash course in Islamic studies and Tafsir (interpretation of the Qura’n).
    There is this thing called “Naskh” in the Qur’an, google it, if you’re interested in learning about the Qura’n and correcting the mistakes you did in this post.
    Peace.

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    • beating around the bush is not good for intelligent people! What do you mean?

      1. Do you mean to say Hadiths are absolutely rubbish?
      2. If no which Hadith is authenticated that one should refer to, according to Allah/Mohammed?
      3. Does it authenticated by your Allah?
      4. Unauthenticated Hadiths, do you mean to say your Allah will punish the Authors?
      5. I have seen Muslims conveniently quoting narrations from all Hadiths, when they are def endless, have you got anything to say about this?
      6. How do you define “intoxication”?
      7. Do you mean to say only Alcohol intoxicates?
      8. What about Charas, Tea, Coffee, Hubble bubble, drugs, opium. some fruits, leaves etc.
      9. What about women?
      10. Are you trying to say Mohammed did not consume Wine/Alcohol?
      11. Do you know some food in excess also makes you intoxicate?
      12. Do you mean to say, you can do all disgraceful crimes against humanity, and if you refrain from drinking your Allah will forgive you of Crimes?
      13. Does your Allah offering 72 full breasted Virgins, and young boys in paradise?
      14. Do these 72 virgins, young boys intoxicate you?
      15. Does your Allah offering Wine and vineyards in Paradise?
      16. Why your Allah doing this for you?
      17. When there are 72 full breasted Virgins in Paradise, what for your Allah keeping young boys too?
      18. Is SEX with dead body approved by your Allah?
      19. Is adult suckling approved by your Allah?
      20. Why divorced Muslims wives have to have SEX with a stranger (when it is not her fault), before getting married with the former?
      21. Is it not a Crime against women?
      22. Did your Allah approve rape of non-Muslim women right in front of their husbands and relatives?
      23. Did your Allah approve rape of daugher-in-law?
      24. Did your Allah approve rape of 9 years old Ayesh?

      Finally, what is the legitimacy of Mohammed as God sent Prophet, when he has not Circumcised,as per the LAW?

      Can you answer the above in brief one by one?

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  35. As far as I can tell, this is the Hadith he is trying to quote:

    “We were with Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) and he asked for water. A person said: Allah’s Messenger, may we not give you Nabidh to drink? He (the Holy Prophet) said: Yes (you may). He (the narrator) said: Then that person went out speedily and brought a cup containing Nabidh, whereupon Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said: Why did you not cover it (خَمَّرْتَهُ)? – even if it is with a wood. He said that then he drank it.” (Sahih Muslim)
    https://sunnah.com/muslim/36/118

    In the same chapter of Sahih Muslim, this same word of Khamr and the same sentence of أَلاَّ خَمَّرْتَهُ وَلَوْ تَعْرُضُ عَلَيْهِ عُودًا is used about milk. It cannot possibly be interpreted as intoxicating.

    I came to Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) with a cup of milk from Naqi’ which had no cover over it, whereupon he said: “Why did you not cover it (خَمَّرْتَهُ)? – even if you had covered it only with a stick.” (Sahih Muslim)
    https://sunnah.com/muslim/36/116

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    • Rizwan, beating around the bush is not good for intelligent people! What do you mean?

      1. Do you mean to say Hadiths are absolutely rubbish?
      2. If no which Hadith is authenticated that one should refer to, according to Allah/Mohammed?
      3. Does it authenticated by your Allah?
      4. Unauthenticated Hadiths, do you mean to say your Allah will punish the Authors?
      5. I have seen Muslims conveniently quoting narrations from all Hadiths, when they are def endless, have you got anything to say about this?
      6. How do you define “intoxication”?
      7. Do you mean to say only Alcohol intoxicates?
      8. What about Charas, Tea, Coffee, Hubble bubble, drugs, opium. some fruits, leaves etc.
      9. What about women?
      10. Are you trying to say Mohammed did not consume Wine/Alcohol?
      11. Do you know some food in excess also makes you intoxicate?
      12. Do you mean to say, you can do all disgraceful crimes against humanity, and if you refrain from drinking your Allah will forgive you of Crimes?
      13. Does your Allah offering 72 full breasted Virgins, and young boys in paradise?
      14. Do these 72 virgins, young boys intoxicate you?
      15. Does your Allah offering Wine and vineyards in Paradise?
      16. Why your Allah doing this for you?
      17. When there are 72 full breasted Virgins in Paradise, what for your Allah keeping young boys too?
      18. Is SEX with dead body approved by your Allah?
      19. Is adult suckling approved by your Allah?
      20. Why divorced Muslims wives have to have SEX with a stranger (when it is not her fault), before getting married with the former?
      21. Is it not a Crime against women?
      22. Did your Allah approve rape of non-Muslim women right in front of their husbands and relatives?
      23. Did your Allah approve rape of daugher-in-law?
      24. Did your Allah approve rape of 9 years old Ayesh?

      Finally, what is the legitimacy of Mohammed as God sent Prophet, when he has not Circumcised,as per the LAW?

      Can you answer the above in brief one by one?

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      • What I point out is simply that he misquoted the reference in an academically dishonest way. See the original quotation I linked to.

        Whether you think the Hadith is authenticated or not is irrelevant. Even if it is an in-authenticated Hadith, if he chose to quote it then he should at least have quoted it honestly and accurately from the book he referenced. We expect that much integrity from any researcher who is worthy of being taken seriously.

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    • Ashfaq, why the man who wrote article is Crazy?

      Islam is not a challenge to Christ……because evil cannot challenge God.

      I say Prove Quaran first, (because the later (Quarn) has to prove, not the former)- Quaran came in 700 years after Christianity. Earlier Scripture/Prophecies/Gospel etc.(Holy Bible) were in existence well before Islam, and it was in circulation during Mohammed verbatim, as it is today.

      Since God will not change His once given sealed Word, there is no validity for Quaran which came in after 700 years of Christianity.

      If you say Quaran is valid, then you must prove it on the basis of earlier Scripture/Prophecies/Gospel etc. If not, Quaran is in Question.

      Secondly, Ottoman had burned all original manuscripts of earlier Quaran, and had made his own Quaran, which you possess now. So where is the question of this Quaran being God sent?

      Who authorised Ottoman to burn all earlier original Quaran?
      Who authorised Ottoman to create his own Quaran?
      Who verified this man-made Quaran?
      What about 1000s of contradictions in this Quaran?
      What about 100s of inaccuracies in the Quaran?

      Did Mohammed have his Circumcision according to LAW? If yes, where is it in Ottoman made Quaran?

      What is the name of St.Mary’s father/brother in Ottoman made Quaran?

      So, the first move Muslims should do is to Prove Quaran, if not it is invalid, by all means.

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  37. As a Muslim I don’t know why everyone is getting so angry about. If your faith is weak and you want to believe this, then I am sorry to say the writer cannot be blamed. We are all responsible for our own actions. My mom use to always tell me that it is the ones who argue the most are the ones who are afraid there is problems with their message. Don’t argue, if you don’t believe in what is being said then just ignore it. I have never drank alcohol in my life I am 36 years old not because my religion tells me not to because my parents explained to me all the positives and negatives that comes with it, and allowed me to make the decision for myself. But I would never judge anyone for choosing different, that is for Allah to do. As Muslims we need to be confident in out deen and stop ‘going crazy’ when someone offers up a different vantage point.

    Peace be upon you
    Jamal

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  38. hi i just want you to know whatever you said in this article is totally false. the evidence you gave from the Quran is correct but you are thinking of it in a wrong way.just because it doesnt say “it is haram” doesnt mean it is okay to drink. drinking is one of the most prohibited things in islam. please do some more research on this and please dont give false information.

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  39. Guys, guys. This entire argument can be settled with one Quranic verse.

    “O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones and (divination by) arrows are an abomination of Satan’s handwork: so avoid it that you may prosper.”

    Lord of the Drinks translated it as “intoxications” instead of intoxicants, but the word “khamr” in the verse means inebriant, booze, or inebriant. That means God is prohibiting the intoxicant itself.

    God is very deliberate on His word choice, as stated in verse 11:1. “Alif Lam Ra. A book whose ‘verses have been perfected’ ” (11:1) That means no two verses have more than one meaning. The Quran also says that few of it’s verses are allegorical and multi-meaning, and it serves as a test to expose manipulators, but the Quran also said only God knows their intended meaning. The verse about intoxicants is certainly not one of them, so take it very specifically – intoxicants themselves are prohibited.

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    • Hello, I do not know your intentions in your statements. I believe, you are trying to defend Muslim God Allah, Quaran, Mohammed, and also say “intoxicants” whether it is coffee, Tea, colas, opium, charas, wine, beer, whiskey, brandy, etc.women, anything that intoxicate human are prohibited.

      My questions in that case:

      1- How come Allah offering Wine in Paradise for Muslims?
      2- How come Allah having a Vineyard in Paradise?
      3- How come Allah offering 72 full breasted Virgins for Muslims?
      4- How come Allah offering young boys in paradise?
      5- How come Allah also promising ETERNAL DICK ERECTION IN PARADISE?
      6- Is Allah a Pimp in Paradise too?
      7- Is Allah a bootlegger in paradise?
      8- Did you know Mohammed himself had wine during his time right in this earth?
      9- Did you know Mohammed had sex (without consent) with 9 year old, own daughter-in-law, sex with dead body of his Aunt, 100s of sex slaves?

      10- Where is source of your Quaran?
      11- Where is source of your Allah?

      Do you mean to say, Allah himself contradicts, Quaran within? Do you mean to say, Quaran is FAKE, and Allah is Fake, and Mohammed is Fake?

      A God cannot give contradictory statements, and make serious mistakes in his book….LOL….

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  40. There’s a misinterpretation of the hadith mentioned
    The drink is called Nabidh which is not wine rather a drink which has the potential of turning into wine but is drunk before it becomes fermented.
    Also Muslims used to drink wine until the prohibition of alcohol was revealed.
    First was the prohibition concerning prayer while intoxicated and finally the abstinence from alcohol.
    ‘Satan only wants to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling,and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from As Salaah, so will you not abstain?’ (5:91)
    There are numerous hadith prohibiting alcohol.
    Ibn Umar narrated from the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him: Every intoxicant is Khamr and every intoxicant is prohibited. (Muslim)
    Abu Hurairah reported from the Prophet:
    When one commits formication,he is not a believer,when one steals he is not a believer,when one drinks Khamr (wine) he is not a believer.(Bukahri and Muslim)

    The Prophet was askes about wine and he forbade him(Muslim)

    The Prophet forbade khamr(wine),maysir(game of chance),kuba(a kind of drum wide at the ends and narrow at the middle looked on with disapproval)and ghubayra (intoxicant made from millet by Abyssinians) saying “every intoxicant is prohibited”.

    There are many more hadiths on this.
    Check the facts.

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  41. My friend Micky,

    May I know where did you get your sources from? We would all appreciate it if you could share.
    You should not just interpret a hadith and Quran yourself, as this may cause misinterpretation.

    At best, you should see a reputable imam to interpret them for you.

    May Allah guide all of us to the right path.

    Cheers and all the best,

    Guy

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  42. I was reading through this post and I’m curious about something. Are the rules regarding alcohol different in different Islamic countries and/or sects of the religion (i.e., would a member of one sect born and raised in Iraq be taught a different ruling on the matter than a member of another sect born and raised in, say, Morocco)? And at different times in history, would the rules change at all? I’m curious ’cause I’ve seen several movies in which Muslims (or presumably Muslims) drink alcohol. Casablanca (set in 1930s Morocco) had (unless I’m mistaken, and I could be since it’s been a while since I’ve seen it) had some Muslim patrons of Rick’s Bar. The Mummy (in 1920s Egypt) had both a Muslim jail warden drinking a bottle of Glenlivet scotch and several patrons of a hotel bar drinking alcoholic beverages of some kind or another. Raiders of the Lost Ark (Egypt again, but 1936) shows Sallah (a Muslim who possibly believes in Ancient Egyptian mysticism as well) with wine and again a bar with multiple patrons drinking alcohol of some form or another. And the film and novel The Thirteenth Warrior (10th century Northern Europe) depict Ahmad ibn Fadlan drinking honey-fermented mead after explaining to a Rus Viking that he is forbidden from drinking the fermentation of grape and wheat. Now, before anyone says, these ARE all Western-made movies and aside from The Thirteenth Warrior ALL take place in North African countries under (or formerly under) foreign European rule and I am fully aware that these are works of pure fiction (or mostly, in the case of ibn Fadlan; if he DID drink alcohol when he was ambassador to the Rus, I don’t know) but I’m still curious. I don’t want any replies that just say “Movies lie and get things wrong, don’t believe them” or “they’re committing a grievous sin by drinking”. I want responsible, informed, adult answers, please and thank you. Would it just be Western/European influence on these countries, differing opinions on alcohol being forbidden, different times, or what?

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    • Well there is not 1 Islam, as there is not 1 kind of Christianity. The guys in Saudi Arabia for example are way more extreme than Morocco or Egypt. And in Bosnia or Turkey alcohol is an important part of society.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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    • Alcohol is forbidden in Islam.
      It’s a different thing though that it is more common in some countries as compared to others despite both being Muslim countries as culture usually precedes the Islamic values in these cases.
      In my country for example,people use a different greeting instead of Assalamoalaikum which is a standard greeting ​in Islam but that is entirely cultural even though most people are not aware of it and consider it Islamic

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