Muslims can drink, just like Muhammad

It's quite well possible to be a good Muslim and still enjoy a drink once in a while.

It’s quite well possible to be a good Muslim and still enjoy a drink once in a while.

It is a general assumption that Muslims can not drink alcohol. Not that all believers of Islam go through life sober, but still it’s considered a sin to have a beer. Well, we did a lot of research and in this story we will explain to you why this assumption is wrong. Muslims are indeed allowed to drink. Wine is even glorified in their holy book the Quran and the prophet Muhammad himself drank too. We hope that soon everywhere in the Middle East the sounds of glasses bashing into eachother will replace those of gunshots. Here we go…

The first thing we need to do is to establish that drinking alcohol is not prohibited by the Quran as is claimed by many. There are three passages that hint in this direction. However not in a single occasion it is called haraam, or forbidden by God, like pork meat for example. Here are the three passages:
Quran 2:219 “They ask you concerning alcoholic drinks and games of chance. Say: in them are harm and goods for men, but their harms exeeds their good effects.
Quran 4:43 “Do not approach prayers while you are drunk.”
Quran 5:90 “O you who believe! Intoxications and gambling, (dedication of) stones and (divination by) arrows are an abomination of Satan’s handwork: so avoid it that you may prosper.”

Yes, alcohol is not being encouraged here. Although it is said that there are good sides to it, the emphasis is on the bad effects. Still it seems more like an advice not to drink as long as you don’t do your prayers drunk. We understand that talking to God with a double tongue is probably not the greatest idea, but as long as you keep that in mind there isn’t a good reason to chose for abstinence.

Now that we established that let’s check out another passage from the Quran that speaks of alcohol:
Quran 16.67 “And of the fruits of the date palms and the grapes, you obtain alcoholic drinks and goods. Verily in that is a sign for a people who use their understanding.”
In this verse without a doubt is said that God bestowed grapes and dates upon people, so they can make alcoholic drinks from them. That’s right, wine making is encouraged here.

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Since we know for sure now that alcohol was not prohibited, but even encouraged, it’s interesting to see how the prophet Muhammad handled his liquor. There are plenty of examples in the Hadiths (tales about Muhammad’s life that are used to understand the meaning of the Quran) that prove he indeed drank alcohol. Here is the most interesting one:
Muslim 3753 “We were with the prophet of Allah and he was thirsty. And a man said: ‘O prophet of Allah, do you want to drink wine?’ Prophet of Allah said: ‘Yes’. The man went to get the wine. The prophet of Allah said: ‘Make it intoxicated’. And he drank.”
Because the Arabian word that was used ‘nabeed’ can also mean alcohol free wine, the addition by the prophet that is must be intoxicated is a very valuable one. There are plenty more passages where Muhammad is drinking wine, both in the morning and in the evening. In many cases the Islamic opponents of alcohol can hide behind the double meaning of the word ‘nabeed’, but in the last habith the Arabic word ‘khamra’ is used, which means alcohol.

And actually Muhammad wasn’t the only one drinking, so did his companions. Anas Bin Malek serves alcohol in Muslim 23, 4884 and 4886. The Mujahedeen drank it in the Battle of Uhud and the prophet’s uncle Hamza even got drunk. When he did, Hamza got mad and Muhammad was scared. This was probably one of the reasons for him to disencourage people to drink too much. There’s also a tale that angels from Allah get drunk and kill a child. Another indication that bad stuff comes from drinking of course.

Still the conclusion must be that although moderation of alcohol is encouraged in Islam, it is absolutely not prohibited. The Quran states nowhere that it is haraam or sinful. The prophet Muhhamad himself that is a role-model for Muslims himself drank wine, just like his companions and Jesus, who in Islam is also considered a prophet. Now that’s one less reason to fight between religions and one more reason to celebrate. Nice to know with the Sugar Feast coming up this week too. So to finish in Arabic: besaha!

Micky Bumbar

Here’s another interesting article on the subject by Mesbahuddin Faruq from the Islamic site free-minds.org.

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618 thoughts on “Muslims can drink, just like Muhammad

    • I wish I had no religion, I wish I was nothing, I wish I was wine at least I never had to account for my existence fr being or not in d belly of a Muslim or Christian. can anyone say if wine will burn in d hellfire?? If no then Why Allah created it??? I m so fed up with contradictions, and threats of scholars within Islam that today I myself don’t know who I am… Oh People don’t play with verses, I hv not seen Muhammad pub, then why do u lie to me about Him ?? When u hv never seen or heard his voice.. The verses of My school report books say “I m horrible in studies”, but I don’t want my children nd grandchildren to believe that bcs I always hoped to b a dignified person, a scholar , or a doctor, or a teacher.. My report cards are truth and my desires where true, yet they contradict each other, so what u wanna fight over?? I was or I was not interested in Studies??

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    • Ha… If Muslims turn to a blog named Lords of the Drinks for counceling on Islam they might search in the wrong place. Either way, what I wrote is literally from your own books mate. Can’t really deny it. But good talk mate, your arguments blew me away.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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      • *Counseling and well done for your stupid blog and degree😊
        Please stop manipulating texts from the Quran
        My husband has a degree from Oxford in Islamic studies and has a PhD and a MD from Harvard:).
        Extremely uneducates, go back to college for you I mean community college.

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  1. you are interpreting the given information in awrong way bro….don’t mis guide anyone….with wrong interpretation of above mentioned quranic verses….

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    • Ah that clears it Ahmad. I am wrong and you are right, with great arguments to prove your point I must add.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  2. There are many hadith that speak against alcohol and I believe that’s where most Muslims get that all alcohol is forbidden. Having said that, there are many muslim-majority countries in which alcohol is consumed and not just by those of minority faiths. I agree with your sentiments that if any Muslim is looking to you for spiritual advice they’re in the wrong place. If a Muslim has come to your page to see if alcohol can be halal, they’ve already made up their mind. Personally, I agree with you. Alcohol is not encouraged (for the most part) but it’s not completely forbidden (except through hadith) and, as with any vice, should be taken in moderation.

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    • Finally a sane Muslim reply. Yes Alcohol or anything in moderation except pork is ok for Muslims.
      The reality is, that Hadith were written 200 years after the death of the Holy prophet(pbuh)
      In the surah Nahl grapes are listed as a gift from Allah to Muslims and all as it can be used to make strong drink! So go figure.

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    • Um I don’t think you should be delivering such a statement without the consent of thorough research.. The Quran mentions, in numerous places, that alcohol is strictly forbidden.. It’s not only in the hadith.. The only time Islam allows the consumption of alcohol is if your life truly depends on it, i.e., a matter of life and death.

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      • “The Quran mentions, in numerous places, that alcohol is strictly forbidden.”
        Where? I am curious that you list the passages as the blog has listed its passages as correlation to its argument……or is this a “shut up, that’s why!” position?

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      • Low self esteem, makes one arguementive, defensive. Hard to imagine an all powerful god needing back up, help etc. A Deity yeah, it would need help from the masses. A mere means to control the masses. Being so easily offended? Weakness. My god, would not need my help. Would be pissed off even at a mere human defending him. Muslim or Christian, ither one. Low self esteem? delevers the need to defend.

        Necta

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  3. Please, this is wrong! Prophet Muhammad (SAW) NEVER drank! Astaghfirullah!
    and seriously wine is not grape juice -.- Although the fruit grape is lawful in its essence, when the extract of this fruit is treated and fermented, it produces a drink which intoxicates…..and every type of drink (or substance) which intoxicates when consumed is absolutely prohibited for the believers who sincerely fear Allah and the Last Day.
    Sunan of Abu-Dawood Hadith 3672 Narrated by Abdullah Ibn Abbas
    The Messenger of Allah (saws) said: “Every intoxicant is ‘khamr’ (alcohol, wine, beer, drugs, etc.), and every ‘khamr’ is haraam.”

    Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab, and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful”

    [al-Maa’idah 5:90]

    Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 4477 Narrated by Jabir ibn Abdullah
    The Prophet (saws) said, “He who believes in Allah and the Last Day must not sit at a cloth (table or gathering) where wine is being circulated.”
    and you say he drank? ASTAGHFIRULLAH!

    In Saheeh al-Bukhaari (2295) and Saheeh Muslim (86) it is narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No one who commits zina is a believer at the moment when he is committing zina, and no one who drinks wine is a believer at the moment when he is drinking it, and no thief is a believer at the moment when he is stealing, and no robber is a believer at the moment when he is robbing and the people are looking on.” This means that such a person is not a believer in the sense of having complete faith, rather his faith is greatly lacking because of this evil action.

    If a Muslim does drink wine, he is committing a sin and unless he truly repents he shall be punished.
    So please do not speak of what you do not know completely.
    Allah knows best!
    and please watch this if you sincerely want to know the truth:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDTuI8nztZ0

    and this will show you Alcohol is prohibited even in the bible!


    May Allah guide you. Ameen.

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    • I think the key element is when you say that every intoxicant is a sin. This is not true when it improves your health. What about drugs or pain killers when you get surgery? Moderate drinking (especially wine) should be seen in that way, since moderate drinkers live a lot longer than teetotalers. In that light one could even say it’s a sin not to drink because you purposely ruin your own health.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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      • I think you have not seen the videos which clearly tell you the harmful effects of wine. You say it improves your health, yes there are some medical benefits, but dear Sir an intoxicant is an intoxicant. And even if a person drinks moderately, there has to be a few times when he gets intoxicated. And when a person is under its effect a certain part of the brain does not function properly and the result is losing your right senses. And we are all aware what can happen then, a drunk does not know who is in front of him and talks bad, majority of cases (90-95% was it?) rape and incest happen when either the victim or the attacker is drunk. Medical experts say Alcoholism is a disease. It’s not. No person starts drinking to become a drunkard. It starts small, in moderation as you say, but then what happens? he’s a drunkard before he knows it!
        And are you seriously saying not drinking ruins your health? lets not kid ourselves here.

        Also Sir what was really important in my comment was that Our Prophet Muhammad (SAW) DID NOT drink! I believe what you did there is blasphemy! You can assume and impose whatever meaning you want but I request you remove this statement from your post immediately! THIS IS FALSE and disrespectful! and wine is NOT glorified in the Holy Quran! Alcohol is not encouraged anywhere. The good is mentioned as it is a fact. But the negative has been emphasized. We may make excuses and try to find loop holes to get away with it, but the truth remains.

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      • Shall I rewrite the Hadith too then? Mate, check your own books, it’s in there.

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      • I think I’d know our books better than you Sir, and trust me I do.
        Do you know the complete sunnah of our Holy Prophet (SAW)? I think not. You have tried too find out about wine in our religion and you have only imposed the meanings upon the ahadees you wanted to impose. You OBVIOUSLY haven’t done a thorough enough research, you don’t know about our history. There are several narrations about some of our respectable pious men that shows how much it is shunned. You might want to check your own books too.
        Can you give me an AUTHENTIC interpretation of this hadith by an ISLAMIC SCHOLAR?
        I can. are you well acquainted with the Arabic language? I highly doubt it. There are some words where there is debate over the meanings. The hadith you’ve written is correct but the translation is not correct.
        If you actually have done your research then you world be aware of the different translation and which ones are correct. I’ve done even more research on this topic after your claim and the result is exactly what I’ve been trying to convey to you from the start. the translation you’ve given were in fact debated but have been proven wrong too.

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      • Well that’s nice. You might want to write down your own interpretation of the rules on your own blog. I see that could use some content anyway.
        Cheers,
        Micky

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      • Hahaha… Can’t complain sir! But to be honest I don’t feel frightened or something. Almost all of the comments here are quite civilized too by the way.
        Cheers,
        Micky

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      • I bet that you a college drop out Mickey who loves getting drunk.

        So what degree have you got in Islamic Studies or Religous Studies.

        I have 4 degrees😊
        Masters in Religous Studies and PhD in medicine and a masters in political science and a PhD in political science.

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  4. hahaha blasphemy – the shame of all religions – you sound infantile and as if you believe in people that float to heavenly lands of honey and nectar, hahaha

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  5. what I find most hilarious are those religious folk who claim to follow some random law of god and refrain from alcohol and tell you so while chain smoking cigarettes, that they just bought after returning their pornographic video rental, which they watched while beating their wives – but some of those things are permissible, as long as you dont drink though… proceed on

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    • Haha… True that Steve. Moderate drinking is healthy but illegal according to some, where these guys smoke cigarettes like crazy, which are only harmful.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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    • who said that it is permissible? how immature and typical. Your comments are only demonstrating what I’m saying. Assumptions. that what you’re doing. Those who call themselves religious and do all this are plain hypocrites who are only fooling themselves.
      I would laugh at this comment if only it wasn’t this sad.
      Anyway, sure take the argument somewhere it doesn’t belong since you don’t have enough foundations to give a valid point and just have to say otherwise. Lets laugh at our own ineptitude 🙂

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  6. You have the wrong end of the stick, alcohol was previously allowed, in the Jahilya day(the days of Ignorance) but Allah the Almighty made it haram, please don’t lead people are stray because you may not be Muslim, we are not sheep.

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    • Never said you were sheep. Actually the whole point of this post is to read your sources, think for yourself and draw your own conclusions. So the opposite of sheep behavior really.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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      • Nicky, Interesting post. I recently converted and became Muslim. I was a Sunni Muslim since birth before.

        My thoughts, for those who use hadith to argue facts is in itself flawed, as hadith are not factual. But that aside, I find following the Qur’an alone has put the responsibility and accountability BACK in my hands.

        I can no longer depend on others (muftis, hadiths) to make decisions, like alchohol for me. I have to decide according to what I read and understand in the book I believe, Quran.

        The Quran, itself says it’s fully detailed and nothing is left out. I think if God wanted to explicitly forbid something he would have stated it.

        Alcohol is not forbidden but one should be careful with it. Just like a lot of Muslims take Prozac or adderral, or greasy foods which clog your arteries, or over eating and sugar, etc…

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      • You make a lot of sense. Thanks a lot for sharing this with us.
        Cheers,
        Micky

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      • They are fooled by false Hadith and the corruption of the perfect Islam. These verse they seem to forget when they rely on Hadith to prove their point.

        [Quran 7:185] Have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all the things God has created? Does it ever occur to them that the end of their life may be near? Which HADITH, besides this (Quran) do they believe in?

        [Quran 31:6] Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless HADITH, and thus divert others from the path of God without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.

        [Quran 39:23] God has revealed herein the BEST HADITH; a book that is consistent and points out both ways (to heaven and hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for God’s message. Such is God’s guidance; he bestows it upon whomever He wills. As for those sent astray by God, nothing can guide them.

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  7. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab, and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful” [Al-Maa’idah 5:90]

    The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: “Every intoxicant is Khamr, and every intoxicant is Haram (prohibited).” [Sahih Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

    Alcohol leads to many harmful things, and deserves to be called “the mother of all evils” – as it was described by the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam), who said: “Alcohol is the mother of all evils.” [Classed as Hasan by Shaykh al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 1854]

    – See more at: http://hadithaday.org/those-who-deserve-the-curse/allah-has-cursed-alcohol/#sthash.B6SWdOtY.dpuf

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    • Allah said Pork and Caren were Haram in the verse Maidah. I don’t believe he ever said that Alcohol was haram. Drunk not drink is the evil. Its just a misconception by the Muslim clergy like interest versus USURY. Two different things.

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  8. I looked up your ‘facts’ in the books that you are referencing and they aren’t there. I checked different publishers and those ‘hadith’ simply do not exist.

    As for the Quran, when it describes paradise there are many things allowed there that are not allowed here, and no obligations either. Also, as a student of pre-Islamic Arabic I can tell you that so ne is used in Arabic poetry as a metaphor for a state of divine ecstasy. Of being present with the Divine, because the effects of such an ecstasy render one senseless.

    This migh dispel some of your confusion. And please, if you are going to try to make an argument, don’t use made up quotations from made up sources. Thanks and have a good day!
    http://www.muslimsandtheworld.com/is-alcohol-actually-prohibited-in-islam/

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  9. I’m a moderate non-drinking muslim but as a doctor I’d like to point out some facts. First a meta-analysis study from 2014 showed that low lovel alcohol intake did NOT provide any cardiovascular protection (almost 1M subjects). However the old data from 2004 lingers on the internet as truth. The health risks are serious and even low level alcohol can cause increase risk in cancer. But also various other diseases.. People with low level alcohol intake (also termed “casual”) have been shown to have a 4x increase risk in developing a serious alcoholism problem. I’m not a very religious man, but medically I agree with the Quran and Torah. Your ignorantly misquoting happens a lot on the internet these days, because everyone with internet is a professor (but they’re not). While it can be socially fun to experiment with alcohol, I would not recommend it as advice for entire community because individuals differ greatly and nobody behaves the same to certains triggers, such as alcohol. The Quran and Torah are more like moral guidelines, they way I see it and you cannot write a book with certain exceptions for some and others (if you understand what I mean). Anyway keep on drinking but the sensible people know you’re just trolling.

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  10. The French have some of the longest life spans in the world and wine is part of their culture. Therefore wine consumption in moderation is healthy. How can improving your health be a sin? Don’t be a sheep and look at the facts objectively.

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  11. Astagfirullah.. who ever has written this clearly has no knowledge, if you are a muslim or non muslim reading, I beg you not to believe a single word before reading the quran in English translation because that is where you will find the real facts. Or go to this link http://islamqa.info/en/20037 and you will find the real information behind drinking alcohol.

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  12. The article first brings up hadiths trying to prove Muhammad drank wine:
    They said:
    “Sahih Muslim: “Drinks, Drinking wine and fermentation”
    Narrated by Gaber bin Abdullah:
    We were with the messenger of Allah, PBUH and he asked for a drink. One of his men said: “Oh Messenger of Allah, Can we offer you wine to drink?” He said Yes. He (Gaber) went out looking for the drink and came back with a cup of wine. The messenger (Peace Be Upon him) asked, “Have you covered it with a twig in a transverse manner” He (Gaber) said, “Yes” and he (Muhammad) drank. Sahih Muslim – Hadith #3753
    Ibn ‘Abbas reported that Nabidh was prepared for Allah’s Messenger(may peace be upon him) in the waterskin, Shu’ba said: It was the night of Monday. He drank it on Monday and on Tuesday up to the afternoon, and If anything was left out of it he gave it to his servant or poured it out. Sahih Muslim 23:4972.”
    Reply:
    The title of the title the critic has given is an inaccurate translation. An accurateone is:
    “COMMAND PERTAINING TO THE COVERING OF VESSELS,AND TIGHTENING (THE MOUTHS) OF WATERSKINS, ETC.” (Source ).
    It should be borne in mind that the Prophet didn’t drink it when it was fermented. He drank it when it was unfermented. A scholar writing on a related hadith:
    ﻋﺼﻴﺮ ﺍﻟﻌﻨﺐ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻟﻢ ﻳﺼﻞ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺣﺪ ﺍﻹﺳﻜﺎﺭ
    “Grape juice, which had not reached the levelof causing intoxication.” (Sheikh Abdul ‘Azeez Bin Abdullah Al-Raajhi – Commentary Of Sahih Muslim – Source ).
    “This gives us an idea of the utmost care which the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) observed in the use of Nabidh. He continued using it
    until there appeared signs of fermentation in it. He discarded its use much before the time when there could be any possibility of any change in its smell and taste. He, therefore,used it only for two days and a half and in case it had no smell or colour of fermentation in it, he gave it to the servant to drink.” (Commentary Of: Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4971 – Abdul Hamid Siddiqi’s Commentary – Dar Al Arabia – Volume 3 – Chapter DCCCXXXVIII- Footnote 2418 – Page 1110 ).
    He also prepared the drink in waterskins, to slow down the process of fermentation:
    “The Holy Prophet (may peace up upon him) had been particular about it. He preferred to get his Nabidh prepared in the waterskin, as due to coolness, it takes a longer time to turn intoxicant.” (Commentary Of:
    Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4972 – cited in: Ibid – Footnote 2419 – Page 1110 ).
    Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4943:
    “‘Uqba b. Huraith said: I heard Ibn ‘Umar saying: The Messengerof Allah (may peace be upon him) forbade (the preparation of Nabidh) in a green pitcher (besmeared with pitch), in varnished jar, and in gourd, and he said:
    Prepare Nabidh in small waterskins.”
    “The process of fermentation is very slow in waterskin as compared with varnished vessels, gourd, pumpkin or hollow stump.” (Ibid – Chapter DCCCXXXVI- Footnote 2410 – Page 1105 ).
    “The lower the temperature the slower the process. At a high temperature the alcoholic rapidly passes into the acetous fermentation.” (William Thomas Brande & Alfred Swaine Taylor – Chemistry – Henry C. Lea, 1867 – Page 576 ).

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  13. U can say what ever lie you like about our Quran and hadith of the prophet peace be upon him, but You will never succeed because islam is already protected from any harm since before Allah create you.

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    • Well that’s a load off my mind haha… No serious mate, not trying to lie here, just read your sources and drew the only logical conclusion. Still faith is something personal, so practice your religion any way you like. Cheers,
      Micky

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  14. Hey Dude Mr. Micky Bumbar,
    Before you say anything about any religion please make sure you are thoroughly studying it.
    In our Holy Book it is as mentioned below:

    “Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 5 Surah Maidah verses 90-91:
    O you who have believed! Khamr (all types of intoxicants), games of chance, idols, and divining arrows are all abominable works of the Shaytaan; therefore, stay (far) away from these so that you may attain success. Indeed, the Shaytaan seeks to sow enmity and hatred among you by means of khamr (intoxicants) and gambling, and to prevent you from the Remembrance of Allah and from Salaah. Will you not, then, abstain from these things?”

    Also apart from our Holy Quran, even in your book Holy Bible it is mentioned so many times as you can read below:

    In the Bible especially in the Old Testament, we find that drinking wine is prohibited. We see this prohibition at least in five places in the Old Testament. For example we read:

    8. And the LORD spake unto Aaron, saying,
    9. Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations: (Leviticus 10:9)

    Notice that “God” (Jesus according to Christians) Says that it shall be a statute forever throughout your generation. Which means also for the days of Jesus and even it is a statute in nowadays for us.

    In another verse we read:

    Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. (Proverbs 20:1)

    No comments! Very clear verse concerning what wine really is, and what it cause to human being.

    In the same book we read:

    For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence. (Proverbs 4: 17)

    Here we have another description of wine, which is violent.

    In Isaiah we read:

    But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment. (Isaiah 28:7)

    Here we have a detailed description of what damages and errors can occur through wine. We are told by “God” ( Jesus according to Christians) that the Priests and the Prophets erred, in other words wine brings “the incorrect” and the “error”, for example bible testify some “errors” from some prophets did through the wine:

    The error of Prophet Noah:

    20. And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
    21. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
    22. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
    23. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness. ( Genesis 9 :20-25)

    The error of Prophet Lot:

    31. And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
    32. Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
    33. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
    34. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
    35. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
    36. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
    37. And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
    38. And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day. (Genesis 19: 31-38)

    In The book of Joel we read:

    Awake, ye drunkards, and weep; and howl, all ye drinkers of wine, because of the new wine; for it is cut off from your mouth. (Joel 1:5)

    Another clear prohibition of wine by “God” (Jesus according to Christians) calling the one who drinks wine “drunkard” and “for it is cut off from your mouth” which means that wine is forbidden.

    Interesting is also the comparison that “God” ( Jesus according to Christians) use in order to describe what wine is equal with:

    Whoredom and wine and new wine take away the heart. ( Hosea 4:11)

    In other words wine has the same results with prostitution! And they are equal.

    In the Gospel of Luke, we read about the John the Baptist:

    For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb. (Luke 1:15)

    John the Baptist is described as an abstainer from wine and for that reason is great in the sight of the Lord.

    As we noticed above from the biblical passages, it is quite clear that wine cause errors, and that “God” ( Jesus according to Christians) prohibited, condemn and many times curse it. Also it is prohibited “for ever throughout the generations” as mention in Leviticus 10:9.

    But the real problem arise when “God” (Jesus according to Christians) came down and became human (only according to Christians) and BLESSED wine! As we read in the Gospel of John:

    1. And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
    2. And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
    3. And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
    4. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
    5. His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it .
    6. And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.
    7. Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
    8. And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it .
    9. When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
    10. And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.( John 2: 1-10)

    This is a famous miracle of Jesus, he changed the water into wine in order people to drink abundantly.

    This is a clear contradiction. In one place we have “God” (Jesus according to Christians) who prohibited, cursed, and condemn wine in several places:

    1) Leviticus 10:9
    2) Proverbs 20:1 and 4:17
    3) Isaiah 28:7
    4) Joel 1:5
    5) Hosea 4:11
    6) Luke 1:15

    And in other place the same God (Jesus according to Christians) bless the wine and changes the water into wine for people to drink abundantly:

    1) John 2:1-10

    The most important think to notice is that the same God after he prohibited in Leviticus 10:9 FOR EVER AND EVER, then he change his mind and bless it????

    Another clear contradiction about the prohibition or if it is allowed the wine, we read the verse

    And the vine said unto them, Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees? (Judge 9:13)

    Here “God” described that Cheereth from wine. A total chaotic confusion. What is really going on with wine? Is it good or bad? Does God prohibited or allowed it? Is it cursed by God ? or Make God Chereeth?”””

    So please we personally request you to delete your blog because nowadays, blogs are read and do not forget that mostly people read the comments and the remarks and their attitude towards the poster. So kindly note if you are doing something in the way of your happiness towards yourself please do not share with others, and if you are doing something in the Way of GOD you can spread the word and in this case I am pretty much sure that you will get a greater respect in your complete journey of Life and the Life after death.

    Jazak-Allah-Khair

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    • Athiest here, first I would also ask you to study religions before discussing them as well. Triniterian Christians don’t believe Jesus is God. They believe the Father, the Holy Spirit and Jesus are one deity/God. It’s a common misconception from Muslims that Christians believe that Jesus is God. Secondly, the concept of God is different between Christianity and Islam. The Father in Christianity is equivalent to God in Islam. He is the creator and the law. Triniterian Christians only differ by the main deity to be a combination of the Father (Equivalent of Allah), the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.

      Lastly, Christianity is based on the words of Saul/Paul and his main point that he made was that Jesus’ arrival brought changes to the law and that freed them from the chains of Judaism (The old testament). Circumcision was no longer a requirement, you could enjoy a bevvy at your local as long as you loved and believed that Jesus died on the cross for your sins (In basic terms).

      I was once Christian and even tried to get my head into Islam, both heavily contradict themselves so that’s why there are so many inconsistencies with things such as this. At the end of the day, your interpretation of the word is what counts as your relationship with your God is personal and no one can take that from you.

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      • Thanks Steven. Did I say that? I think not. See you had a few more comments today, solet’s see them first before I get to topic too much right now.
        Cheers,
        Micky

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      • Hi Micky

        No you didn’t say that mate i was trying to reply to the comments by zainbar i think his name was . I was trying to reply to the comment above the one where my reply landed.

        Love your work mate keep it up!

        Cheers 🍻

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    • May i suggest that you thoroughly study Christianity before you comment on it. Christians do not believe that Jesus is god and you sir are a hypocrite

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  15. Y can’t u write a blog on the stuffs u know

    Clearly u r very ignorant about the faith islam

    And try not to falsely accuse beloved Prophet and mix n match verses from holy Quran…it doesnt potrait a gud impression abt ur intelligence

    Please try to be a respectable human being..and respect is earned, but never by misleading others.

    Cheers!

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    • Dear Hafeesa,
      I don’t try to mislead anyone. Just give my interpretation of the Islamic books. I think it’s healthy for people to actually think themselves and draw their own conclusions. So nobody has to follow me.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  16. Thank you for the wonderful article, Micky!

    I truly doubt that God sent prophets to bring us recipe books and to tell us what to eat, what to drink and when to eat/drink. There should have been something more important in God’s message I guess.

    And by the way, there are Muslims (qizilbash) that drink liquor, wine and beer freely, because their RELIGION does not prohibit this.

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    • Thanks a lot for your comment. I also believe that what we do in life (not kill or steal, help people when you can) is way more important than drinking or not drinking. If you are still a nice person when drunk, I don’t see a problem. Same as no prophet has to tell me how to whipe my ass haha
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  17. I don’t really blame you for this, Beer is your life it’s your soul and without it you are like a fish out of the water so it’s only natural for you to translate and interpret the Quran and the hadeeth in a way that fit’s your life style.
    You are so desperate for attention I feel sorry for you, Oh and by the way you might wanna use your analyzing skills to translator this, أسئل الله أن يرينا فيك عجائب صنعته يا مفتري. let me know how that translates lmfao.

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    • You got me sir. I’m a sad case. Thanks for the attention. This and my beers are the only things that keep me going. :p
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  18. Peace to all.
    Whenever there’s any debate concerning any matter in Islam, only the Quran should be the reference. Please do not refer to the hadiths. Hadiths arose 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad. They are sayings falsely attributed to the prophet and the contain many contradictions. In the matter of this debate we find that one hadith will be saying that consuming alcohol is prohibited while there will be another one that says otherwise. In almost all matters of debate if we refer to the hadiths we will find that the hadiths contradict one another and are not consistent at all. God has explained this to us in the Quran chapter 4 verse 82, “Will they not, then, try to understand this Qur’an? Had it issued from any but God, they would surely have found in it many an inner contradiction.” Therefore we may conclude that hadiths are the words of men since we find many contardictions within the hadiths. The Quran on the other hand is revelation from God and there are no contradictions within the Quran. In this and other matters of debate concerning jurisprudence in Islam, we should study and understand the Quran. With it and the faculty of thinking that God has given us, we will surely find an answer to whether something is forbidden or not.

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  19. You start with quranic aayat then u change the words. In the beginning whats written in quran and what you are writing matches. And then your words changes.why u change words and talk.u want people to believe you then dont change words accordingly.

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  20. Micky Bumbar
    remove it right now or else i am going to shut it down by myself but i whant you to do so

    YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SPREADING FALSE THINKS AMONG PEOPLE..
    YOU READ QURAN
    A LITTLE BUT WE RECITE IT ALL WITH HADITH

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      • I am a Muslim and Qureshi you are an idiot! Micky is right, alcohol was prohibited after the Caliph Osman learn’t that a cleric leading
        Prayers was so drunk he could not get up after prostration. As is the case in the Quranic verses in this site, The Quran never called Alcohol haram like pork. Also the gospels (hadith were written 200
        Years after the death of the holy prophet pbuh.

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  21. What you said I’d not true at all. In the very beginning of islam drinking was allowed and then immediately forbidden. The prophet Muhammad PBUH cursed those who drank, served and brewed alcohol. He also said he who drinks wine in this world will not drink the wine of the next world. This is an absolute clear proof that drinking is haram. Also, if one drinks wine(alcohol) his prayers will not be accepted for 40 days!! This is an indicator. Stop spreading lies about islam what you are doing is very dangerous. The prophet Muhammad PBUH said if anyone makes something up about me that is not true, he can take his eat in the hell fire.

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    • Well I’ll take my chances. I don’t fear any consequences in hell because of this article.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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    • Quoting you : “He also said he who drinks wine in this world will not drink the wine of the next world”.So a threat to discourage drinking alcohol in this life, according to your knowledge of Quran, is the one of taking away alcohol from the afterlife or the next life (whatever)? That looks really mindtwisting and implies somehow that drinking is good but we must not dare afford it in this life… . Unless it refers to another …type of drinking, but then…why saying it like that and why Allah would want one to affect the other. Wow there are as many interpretations as there are heads and as usual I just say a Creator must logically exist but all religious people live an lifelong illusion and never got really to the Creator as they wished. Maybe Buddhists though indirectly got closer. That said, I am out

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  22. Genuine Muslim, what gives you the right to call yourself a genuine Muslim? Only Allah can decide that! Please read the Quran and not misplaced Gospels(Hadith). They were compiled about 200 years after the prophets death(pbuh). Again, there is a huge difference between drink and drunk. You probably would not know that!

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  23. The author is a giant dildo.I’m a new Muslim and even I know from reading these same hadith that it is haram.Author please go jerk off with barbed wire wrapped around your hand while shoving a cactus up your ass.

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  24. Q: Whats the difference between a Methodist and a Baptist? A: A Methodist will say hello to you at the Liquor store. Insert any Denomination or religion or place..i.e. Whats the difference between a Christian and a Muslim? A Christian will say hello to you at the Liquor store. I don’t believe in angry desert gods or talking snakes. I’m just an Existentialist, not that I go round collecting Degrees I do have 2. One in Theology and one in Substance Abuse Counseling. Getting both made me drink more. No I don’t Counsel, I just do DUI Assessments 2 nights a week which pays better. Getting my Theology Degree also made me not believe in the Easter Bunny. One thing ive learned Drinking and Politics/Religion don’t mix well. People are too sensitive and Alcohol lowers inhibitions. Now back to my seasonal work as a Machinist after I have some of that Hair of the Dog that bit me last night. Which will be w/ 1 arm, I had to chew the other off this morning so as to not wake up the Phat Chicka I settled for last night when I was seeing triple. For she was indeed a super model at 2am.

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  25. THIS IS A FALSEHOOD AND AN INNOVATION! THERE IS NO SUCH THING!!! ALCOHOL IS CLEARLY FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM AND YOU ARE MISINFORMED!!! PLEASE TAKE THIS POST DOWN YOU ARE MISLEADING THE PEOPLE…. PLEASE IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ON ISLAM GO TO WHYISLAM.ORG FOR MORE INFORMATION – NOT THIS WEBSITE!! DO NOT BE FOOLED PEOPLE!! WAKE UP!

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  26. Necta….Necta of the gods…I got a better idea, treat a female as a lady, dang, don’t throw rocks at her….Necta baby….Necta, aint even read the news yet, coffee, the other Necta

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  28. When Quran (the word of God for Muslims) asks them to “avoid” intoxicants / alcohol, it comes as an order instead of a suggestion. Yes there are a few benefits of alcohol; so in case of emergencies relating to a human life, it can be administered if, and only if, it is necessary to save the life or treat an ailing person.

    Islam as a religion (and not the religious fanatics or extremists) gives highest importance to a human life. The murder of one human being has been declared the murder of entire humanity. So, for saving a life there are certain rules of exception which cannot be applied in normal course of routine life. (I don’t support the fanatic view that alcohol cannot be administered even in medicine to save a life or to treat a patient, which I know prevails as well).

    For me there are sufficient reasons, clear divine commandments (Quran & Hadith) and enough empirical evidence to strictly believe that alcohol cannot be used as a drink or for routine domestic consumption. Exceptions, I have already mentioned above.

    Having said that, please note that recent research has annulled / overturned / disagreed with the previous claims that a little (moderate) consumption of alcohol could be beneficial for health. Please search for it or refer to following link:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2688161/Moderate-drinking-IS-bad-health-Just-two-glasses-wine-day-cause-problems.html

    Even medically speaking use of alcohol carries no mention-able benefits as a “drink”, regardless of however moderate it is.

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    • Thanks for your comment Nassir. This study as presented in this Daily Mail article I haven’t seen before. They might be right, but one way or another: moderate drinkers outlive teetotalers by several years. Maybe we need more research on why this is, but this is a fact.
      So if we take that fact as a starting point it would actually be pretty haram not to drink at all, right?!
      Kind regards,
      Micky

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  29. If u like 2 drink.do it.but plz dont mislead people by publishing false informations and dont give misinterpretations to our precious Qur’an. I wish you to understand that Qur’an is a book that have the purpose to lead people in good path and one can never understand or assume what Quran is saying by taking only a set of hadith.im not have too much knowledge in Quran. But im sure atleast i have know morethan u do.pls dont share this type of sensitive issue without doing enough reaserch on it.it may have certain benefits by drinking alcohol. But everyone knows it have bad effects morethan benefits.it’s common sense.i wonder what makes you create these types of false interpretations on Quran and try to cheat on people. Anything can be describe in a negative sense.i think u are that type of person who try to find out negative in everything and if there is nothing bad, u tries to make them negative by urself.pls dont make fool urself. Also pls don’t make others fools.dont mislead us.im begging u!

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    • Is it common sense that alcohol has more bad effects than benefits? Now who is making a fool of him/herself anonymous?
      You say you don’t know the Quran that well, but maybe you are more familiar with modern medicine. Moderate drinking keeps you alive longer and just this week scientists revealed you also age better.
      No wonder Muhammad did not mind having a drink from time to time and his God didn’t forbid it.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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      • Good job Micky. I am Muslim and a student of Quran and as yet have not found it to say Haram(banned) there is a difference between drink and drunk just people don’t know that!

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      • Thanks for the back up mate. Indeed, there is a difference. It’s not rocket science. Moderate drinking (which is healthy) is not forbidden, smashing yourself (which harms the body and makes it impossible to pray properly) is a no-no.
        Thanks again for your comment.
        Cheers,
        Micky

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  30. A day above ground? Its worth celebrating. I just wanna celebrate another day of living. I dont know if Muslims have differnt denominations like Christians do, i.e. Baptist, Penecostal etc. But w/ Christians? some are truly easily offended. My experience has showed me Methodist & Luterans will say “Hello” to you at a Liquor store or a strip club. A Baptist will not, Catholic wont. Never seen a Muslim at either place. But seem to be as easily offended as some Christians. Been around the world twice meet all kinds. Being easily offended no matter what religion boils down to…”I dont feel good about my self” Weak 4 legged Mammals react the same way. The weaker one is, the more that one will “Lean” on to some thing almighty..for comfort. Some even cling. Maybe nothing to do w/ religion at all. Again…its the individual. I have met great men that i respect of both religions. Simply cant just hand it to them, when they have inner personal problems. PTSD is a MOFO. Most of us have been traumitized. Faith can lift a man up. Some dont need it.

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  31. You deliberately changed “benefits” to “effects” ?

    Quran 2:219: In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit. (in both Sahih International and Muhsin Khan translations)

    Sin is by drinking wine, and “benefit” if you read in detail, it means the “monetary-benefit” that people gain by producing wine and selling wine, not by drinking it. How you twisted “monetary-benefit” to “monetary-effect” is a miracle, amazing !

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    • That’s the first time I hear that explanation. Sounds a bit far thought. That being said, it’s a proven fact that wine has health benefits, which can not be denied. So why even bother?
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  32. I wish I had no religion, I wish I was nothing, I wish I was wine at least I never had to account for my existence fr being or not in d belly of a Muslim or Christian. can anyone say if wine will burn in d hellfire?? If no then Why Allah created it??? I m so fed up with contradictions, and threats of scholars within Islam that today I myself don’t know who I am… Oh People don’t play with verses, I hv not seen Muhammad pub, then why do u lie to me about Him ?? When u hv never seen or heard his voice.. The verses of My school report books say “I m horrible in studies”, but I don’t want my children nd grandchildren to believe that bcs I always hoped to b a dignified person, a scholar , or a doctor, or a teacher.. My report cards are truth and my desires where true, yet they contradict each other, so what u wanna fight over?? I was or I was not interested in Studies??

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